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I didn't think this is enough for a deviation, so I put this into a journal entry.
So, having been in the midst of Mary Sue conversations every now and then, I came up with a pretty simple Mary Sue litmus test. Or rather, "how much you need to pay attention to avoid making your character a Sue" litmus test.
So I wanna give this a shot. Feel free to try this with your characters! And feel also free to give feedback if you want. I'll probably edit more options later!
Here is the test:
From the list below, which descriptor portrays best how you think about your character?
Be honest with your answer.
Read then the result below.
"He/She is..."
1. "...me, just in a different setting."
2. "...a piece in a larger puzzle that ultimately forms my story."
3. "...my attempt to create as cool/cute/awesome character as possible."
4. "...my dear friend."
5. "...my baby/child."
6. "...my tool to smack a character (canon or original) that I don't like."
7. "...an ideal lover/friend to another character (canon or original)."
8. "...my way to study a larger worldly theme, such as cynicism, forgiveness, self-doubt etc."
9. "...my ideal about a boyfriend/girlfriend."
10. "...a character that stirs juicy controversy in my cast with his/her negative traits."
11. "...an escapist fantasy of mine."
12. "...a little unfortunate creature I like to hurl into different situations to see his/her reactions."
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Results:
If you chose: 1, 4, 5, 9, 11
Ouch ouch ouch. Chances are that you are very, very attached to your character. You may think the character as a close friend of yours or something similar or even as yourself. While this kind of attachment does not automatically make your character a Mary Sue, it WILL make it harder to write about your character objectively. You may have a subconscious instinct to protect your character, even if you don't realize it by yourself.
Make first your character a character, and unless you're writing a honest autobiography, make your character a different entity from you. While that character can have traits that you value, making the character a perfect ideal of yourself / you (girl/boy)friend easily makes a character flat. If you want make this kind of character to work, you need to pay effort. Don't hesitate to ask people (especially more experienced writers) feedback so you can pinpoint any weaker spots of the character concept!
If you chose: 6, 7
If this is your genuine answer, it is rather obvious that you channel your emotions through your character, and you pour your ideals into him/her. This is a dangerous route to take, as if this descriptor is the main motivation of yours to create a character, the related feelings are likely to blind you. Careful. CAREFUL. Pay attention in creating his/her personality. Make him/her a character, first, not your vessel of affection or hate. Again, remember to ask feedback.
If you chose: 3
It's hard to say from this answer. It may work either way; an ambition to create something mind-shaking can lead to any kind of characters, depending on the execution. If you only stuff cool/cute/amazing/etc. traits into a character, you creep towards the Sue territory. But if you aim creating a well-rounded character and you don't shy to do your research and ask constructive feedback for him/her, then just go go go!
However, this answer doesn't express anything definite about your relationship to the character. If you want to see it, return back to the list and pick up a descriptor that portrays your character second-best!
If you chose: 2, 8, 10, 12
Is this your genuine reply? No cheating? Not even a little? Remember that Christmas is close!
However, if you were honest with your answer, congratulations! It is probable that you have an objective view on your character; he/she is your tool of expression, and you treat him/her as so. He/She may be your way to convey your story, or a character you love to poke around to see his/her reactions. This is a good distance between you and your character! As long as you keep your common sense, I don't find it likely this kind of character is prone to slide into Sueness. To keep him/her on the right road, don't hesitate to ask feedback about your concept!
So, having been in the midst of Mary Sue conversations every now and then, I came up with a pretty simple Mary Sue litmus test. Or rather, "how much you need to pay attention to avoid making your character a Sue" litmus test.
So I wanna give this a shot. Feel free to try this with your characters! And feel also free to give feedback if you want. I'll probably edit more options later!
Here is the test:
From the list below, which descriptor portrays best how you think about your character?
Be honest with your answer.
Read then the result below.
"He/She is..."
1. "...me, just in a different setting."
2. "...a piece in a larger puzzle that ultimately forms my story."
3. "...my attempt to create as cool/cute/awesome character as possible."
4. "...my dear friend."
5. "...my baby/child."
6. "...my tool to smack a character (canon or original) that I don't like."
7. "...an ideal lover/friend to another character (canon or original)."
8. "...my way to study a larger worldly theme, such as cynicism, forgiveness, self-doubt etc."
9. "...my ideal about a boyfriend/girlfriend."
10. "...a character that stirs juicy controversy in my cast with his/her negative traits."
11. "...an escapist fantasy of mine."
12. "...a little unfortunate creature I like to hurl into different situations to see his/her reactions."
.
.
.
Results:
If you chose: 1, 4, 5, 9, 11
Ouch ouch ouch. Chances are that you are very, very attached to your character. You may think the character as a close friend of yours or something similar or even as yourself. While this kind of attachment does not automatically make your character a Mary Sue, it WILL make it harder to write about your character objectively. You may have a subconscious instinct to protect your character, even if you don't realize it by yourself.
Make first your character a character, and unless you're writing a honest autobiography, make your character a different entity from you. While that character can have traits that you value, making the character a perfect ideal of yourself / you (girl/boy)friend easily makes a character flat. If you want make this kind of character to work, you need to pay effort. Don't hesitate to ask people (especially more experienced writers) feedback so you can pinpoint any weaker spots of the character concept!
If you chose: 6, 7
If this is your genuine answer, it is rather obvious that you channel your emotions through your character, and you pour your ideals into him/her. This is a dangerous route to take, as if this descriptor is the main motivation of yours to create a character, the related feelings are likely to blind you. Careful. CAREFUL. Pay attention in creating his/her personality. Make him/her a character, first, not your vessel of affection or hate. Again, remember to ask feedback.
If you chose: 3
It's hard to say from this answer. It may work either way; an ambition to create something mind-shaking can lead to any kind of characters, depending on the execution. If you only stuff cool/cute/amazing/etc. traits into a character, you creep towards the Sue territory. But if you aim creating a well-rounded character and you don't shy to do your research and ask constructive feedback for him/her, then just go go go!
However, this answer doesn't express anything definite about your relationship to the character. If you want to see it, return back to the list and pick up a descriptor that portrays your character second-best!
If you chose: 2, 8, 10, 12
Is this your genuine reply? No cheating? Not even a little? Remember that Christmas is close!
However, if you were honest with your answer, congratulations! It is probable that you have an objective view on your character; he/she is your tool of expression, and you treat him/her as so. He/She may be your way to convey your story, or a character you love to poke around to see his/her reactions. This is a good distance between you and your character! As long as you keep your common sense, I don't find it likely this kind of character is prone to slide into Sueness. To keep him/her on the right road, don't hesitate to ask feedback about your concept!
It has been a while since I made these. Tagged!
Since I haven't written anything on my journal for a while, I answered to this tag, by juha91 (https://www.deviantart.com/juha91). In other case, I might have been a terrible person and ignored it. :'D
Sooo...
The rulesYou have to post ALL the Rules.
Each person has to share 13 things about themselves.
Answer 13 questions asked to you and invent 13 questions the people you tag will have to answer.
Chose 13 people.
You have to legitimately tag 13 people.
You CAN'T say you don't do tags.
Tag-backs are ALLOWED.
YOU MUST MAKE A JOURNAL ENTRY! NO COMMENTS! Unless you're talking ABOUT the entry.
You have to finish within a week. If you don't finish in time, you have
Devious Journal Entry
How long have you been on DeviantArt?
Since October 2007, meaning almost 8 years (wow!).
What does your username mean?
Nuti is the name I gave first for a cat-girl-like creature in a fantasy story I was writing when I was 15, here is a picture below of her. She was a thief belonging to a race called honsa, who were child-sized mammal-humanoid hybrids. Basically she was a kid-sized cat-girl, albeit a teen by the standards of her race. She was a sarcastic "I do anything to survive" thief who was willing to go to break law to keep herself and her two friends (other protagonists and, technically, her adopted kids) fed and clothed. She did have
Questionnaire: Looking for participants!
To get fodder for my thoughts (and perhaps to publish them here and on my Tumblr account), I want to set up a small questionnaire relating to video games and other visual story media. I don't publish the questions here, since I want as unbiased replies as possible; instead, I send those questions to you via a private message.
Requirements:
- You read this journal entry from the start to the end and accept the terms there
- You enjoy visual story media (particularly video games but also movies, comics, tv series etc. qualify)
- You are fine with telling me your (identified) gender and age
The answers will be quoted as written (minus poten
What? Nuti is in Tumblr, too!
Hiya! Now when I follow a handful of Tumblr blogs, I decided to create my own Tumblr account. Well, mostly to access some ask forms and simply to reserve this name for myself. Here we go! http://nuttynutifications.tumblr.com/ I may expand more towards Tumblr if one day I get a feeling that I might want to start a blog! I do have some ideas, perhaps something I don't like to do now, but one day...
Note! The person who uses the name NuttyNuti in Tumblr (and apparently posted last time in 2010) IS NOT me!
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I got 2,3, 8, 12, ^^